Homosexuality as sin
For the last several years, homosexuality has become a major discussion topic. The most outstanding event was the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling that homosexuals could marry with all the full legal implications of the term. Now there is a furor over a children’s TV show. Generally, the outrage is being described as coming from religious conservatives. That group would indeed be outraged, since male homosexuality is explicitly defined as sinful in the Bible, both Old and New Testaments. In the Old Testament we have the destruction of Sodom [from whence comes the term sodomy] and Gomorrah, and in the new Paul’s castigations of it.
In the context of the Bible, it is quite understandable that it would be considered sinful. First of all it contravenes the divine injunction to be fruitful and multiply. Fecundity was important in those times, it continued the father’s lineage, provided help in survival, and provided assistance in old age, which in those times was not nearly as old as now.
The biblical attitudes are still very strong among many people today. This comment from Ally’s (Who Moved My Truth?) post on the kids’ show is probably representative:
I have a lot of trouble with this comment. Its absolute self-righteousness is the same sort of thinking that leads to persecution of others that are not like ourselves. In addition, it has the epistemic hubris to think that this is the absolutely known will of God.
In an earlier post in October, Ally had this so say (she said it so well, I’d rather quote it than try it myself):
Finally, Ally said this about the kids’ show:
Ally’s point about being a good family is very well stated. I know of a family that consists of two lesbians raising a straight daughter. I also know of a heterosexual family that engaged in continual mental, emotional, and occasional physical abuse of the children. Tell me which is more sinful. Is homosexuality an unforgivable sin? I was under the impression that the only unforgivable sins were presumptive sin and suicide. (in the first assuming forgiveness prior to doing something knowingly sinful, and in the second being unable to seek forgiveness once dead)
The next question to be asked, is it the homosexuality, per se, or other concomitant behaviors and consequences that create or exacerbate the sinfulness. The bible states an absolute prohibition against adultery, and depending on where one reads, condemns non-marital sex, or quietly condones it. The strictures on virginity of the woman have to do with property rights in the Old Testament. Actually there are some public health benefits from chastity and fidelity in Biblical times—it prevented the spread of STDs. Gay relationships seem to be generally less stable than heterosexual ones, though there are some that last a long time. Already there are gay divorces after the recent legalization of gay marriage. Being married doesn’t appear to create additional stability.
From a cultural standpoint, the flaunting of homosexuality or the related transgender and bisexual behaviors, is like waving a flag in front of a bull. It is rather like Mario Savio at Berkeley in 1964 when he defined free speech as being able to say the F… word through a bull horn in public. It is an in-your-face type of behavior that has its sole purpose to offend. To what purpose? Quiet homosexuals are often persecuted when found out, and the persecution is the worse for the image the flaunters create.
Regardless of the cultural aspects, is it reasonable to absolutely condemn homosexuality on religious grounds? To simply quote the Bible on the issue is to close all discussion. I do not consider the Bible inerrant, nor divinely dictated, divinely inspired, yes. It is a record of Judeo-Christian relationships with God and their working out. Other than statements condemning homosexual behavior, there is nothing to provide understanding of why they are sinful.
It crosses my mind that just as there are good and bad forms of heterosexual activity, so there may be, at the least, neutral and bad forms of homosexual activity. Part of it has to do with the source of the homosexuality. If it is genetic, or inborn, is there a moral stigma to be attached? Some would say with the practice of it, yes. But if the biblical literalists follow Jesus teachings, even if it were not physically practiced, the thought would be of equal weight as sin. This would condemn someone to perpetual sin for something that was not their fault. And yes, I have seen a science news article that estimates that about 15% of homosexuals are genetically determined.
But that accounts for only a small part of the homosexual community. I have seen people claim that it is an acquired or learned behavior. If so, what goes into the acquisition or learning? Is it behavior that is of itself bad? Is it the result of bad experiences from growing up that create an animosity, fear, or hatred of the opposite sex? And if it is learned, can it be unlearned? There are now research reports that many experiences can create changes in the hardwiring of the brain even at a late age. Things learned during the powerful emotional surges of puberty are especially resistant to alteration, except by equivalent counter-experiences.
Even if it is a learned behavior, how does one attach a moral stigma to it? What are the premises that lead to its condemnation? One certainly can’t condemn it from a utilitarian viewpoint, as long as the relationships are not harmful to the persons involved. To condemn it from a deontological view requires something other than a Biblical proscription. It would appear to me that as long as the relationship is voluntary, non-exploitive, and loving, there should be no condemnation. Just as we prosecute spousal abuse, so abusive homosexual relationships can be subject to prosecution. The motives and the external results determine the morality of the relationship.
I am going to avoid the whole issue of homosexual marriage. I addressed it to a great degree in another post, and there has been a lot of excellent discussion on it in other blogs. Basically I did an end-run on it, similar to the way I have dealt with theodicy, and established starting rules that avoid the problem.
Just as a truth in blogging measure, I am definitely heterosexual, and am indifferent to other people’s sexual orientation. If they are gay or lesbian, so what? I am concerned with what kind of people they are and how I get along with them. I don’t feel threatened by gay men, in fact my wife and I can still get chuckle out of the time a gay waiter tried to hit on me when she and I were out to dinner one evening.
So what do I think God does about homosexuality? Since I don’t have an all-powerful God, He doesn’t have control over a person’s sexuality. He can look at the kind of person they are and go from there. I see complete parallels between homosexual and heterosexual relationships, the only differences being the sexes involved and the potential for children. To condemn homosexual relationships for their sterility is to also condemn sterile heterosexual relationships as well, so the only possible moral stigma unique to homosexuality would be the orientation itself. Evil is condemned, but not until it acts and has consequences. I think the same would be true for homosexuality. Only if it has bad consequences could it be condemned. The criteria should be the same as for any other bad behavior.
But if homosexuality is not sinful per se, must we approve of it? No, a lack of sinfulness does not force approval. It does not mean that it has to be accepted either. It must be tolerated—it is not illegal, nor immoral. Acceptance and approval are personal issues, and, though more serious or deeper seated, can be considered similar in nature to matters of taste. From a personal standpoint we cannot persecute without committing sin ourselves, but we are not required to accept or approve either.
The worst approach is to consider it a sin or a sickness with its implied forceful proscriptions. It is a difference, and one that is not conducive to procreation. I think research should be done as to its origins, and for those who wish to become heterosexual, counseling and help provided, with research on the most effective ways to accomplish it. But I do not consider condemning those who would remain homosexual. It is their life and that may be the best they can do with it.
In the context of the Bible, it is quite understandable that it would be considered sinful. First of all it contravenes the divine injunction to be fruitful and multiply. Fecundity was important in those times, it continued the father’s lineage, provided help in survival, and provided assistance in old age, which in those times was not nearly as old as now.
The biblical attitudes are still very strong among many people today. This comment from Ally’s (Who Moved My Truth?) post on the kids’ show is probably representative:
…the Almighty God has condemned certain people and their actions on the basis of the aforementioned basis. Sodomy is a damnable action. False religions are subject to eternal wrath. Everyone on the face of the planet is defined by either "male" or "female". All mankind is "one blood" (Acts 17:26). There is one way only to eternal salvation: faith in Jesus in Christ and His redeeming work on the cross.
Can one question the wisdom of the all-wise? May we never stop defining others according to the truth of God's Word.
I have a lot of trouble with this comment. Its absolute self-righteousness is the same sort of thinking that leads to persecution of others that are not like ourselves. In addition, it has the epistemic hubris to think that this is the absolutely known will of God.
In an earlier post in October, Ally had this so say (she said it so well, I’d rather quote it than try it myself):
… while all sins may be the same in God's eyes - I can't speak for Him, so I'll have to go with that - the consequences of our actions are drastically different. (I still hold with the idea that a murderer is a bit more of a sinner than, say, Martha Stewart....
What makes no sense to me - it never has - is that homosexuality is a private sin. We all have them....gluttony, lying to ourselves and others, moments of selfishness, etc. If you define homosexuality as a sin - and again, that is IF - it is a private sin that is between that individual and God. What is so horrific about it?...
To suggest that is worse than lying or fraudulent behavior, which can damage many people, seems ridiculous. Call homosexuality a sin....I really don't care. We all take part in "sins" every day, so he who is without sin can start collecting soda cans to whale in my direction. In the meantime, the rest of us better starting checking out that plank sticking out of our cornea - and leave everyone else to their own splinters.
Finally, Ally said this about the kids’ show:
I guess it goes back to my original argument - stop defining people by their sexual preference, gender, race, religious association, etc., and define them by who they are as people. It does not matter if the family is same-sex or opposite-sex, as long as they are good family. The more we draw attention to it, the less we notice the positive aspects, and the more hate grows. Let it be "no big deal," and people will have less concern.
Ally’s point about being a good family is very well stated. I know of a family that consists of two lesbians raising a straight daughter. I also know of a heterosexual family that engaged in continual mental, emotional, and occasional physical abuse of the children. Tell me which is more sinful. Is homosexuality an unforgivable sin? I was under the impression that the only unforgivable sins were presumptive sin and suicide. (in the first assuming forgiveness prior to doing something knowingly sinful, and in the second being unable to seek forgiveness once dead)
The next question to be asked, is it the homosexuality, per se, or other concomitant behaviors and consequences that create or exacerbate the sinfulness. The bible states an absolute prohibition against adultery, and depending on where one reads, condemns non-marital sex, or quietly condones it. The strictures on virginity of the woman have to do with property rights in the Old Testament. Actually there are some public health benefits from chastity and fidelity in Biblical times—it prevented the spread of STDs. Gay relationships seem to be generally less stable than heterosexual ones, though there are some that last a long time. Already there are gay divorces after the recent legalization of gay marriage. Being married doesn’t appear to create additional stability.
From a cultural standpoint, the flaunting of homosexuality or the related transgender and bisexual behaviors, is like waving a flag in front of a bull. It is rather like Mario Savio at Berkeley in 1964 when he defined free speech as being able to say the F… word through a bull horn in public. It is an in-your-face type of behavior that has its sole purpose to offend. To what purpose? Quiet homosexuals are often persecuted when found out, and the persecution is the worse for the image the flaunters create.
Regardless of the cultural aspects, is it reasonable to absolutely condemn homosexuality on religious grounds? To simply quote the Bible on the issue is to close all discussion. I do not consider the Bible inerrant, nor divinely dictated, divinely inspired, yes. It is a record of Judeo-Christian relationships with God and their working out. Other than statements condemning homosexual behavior, there is nothing to provide understanding of why they are sinful.
It crosses my mind that just as there are good and bad forms of heterosexual activity, so there may be, at the least, neutral and bad forms of homosexual activity. Part of it has to do with the source of the homosexuality. If it is genetic, or inborn, is there a moral stigma to be attached? Some would say with the practice of it, yes. But if the biblical literalists follow Jesus teachings, even if it were not physically practiced, the thought would be of equal weight as sin. This would condemn someone to perpetual sin for something that was not their fault. And yes, I have seen a science news article that estimates that about 15% of homosexuals are genetically determined.
But that accounts for only a small part of the homosexual community. I have seen people claim that it is an acquired or learned behavior. If so, what goes into the acquisition or learning? Is it behavior that is of itself bad? Is it the result of bad experiences from growing up that create an animosity, fear, or hatred of the opposite sex? And if it is learned, can it be unlearned? There are now research reports that many experiences can create changes in the hardwiring of the brain even at a late age. Things learned during the powerful emotional surges of puberty are especially resistant to alteration, except by equivalent counter-experiences.
Even if it is a learned behavior, how does one attach a moral stigma to it? What are the premises that lead to its condemnation? One certainly can’t condemn it from a utilitarian viewpoint, as long as the relationships are not harmful to the persons involved. To condemn it from a deontological view requires something other than a Biblical proscription. It would appear to me that as long as the relationship is voluntary, non-exploitive, and loving, there should be no condemnation. Just as we prosecute spousal abuse, so abusive homosexual relationships can be subject to prosecution. The motives and the external results determine the morality of the relationship.
I am going to avoid the whole issue of homosexual marriage. I addressed it to a great degree in another post, and there has been a lot of excellent discussion on it in other blogs. Basically I did an end-run on it, similar to the way I have dealt with theodicy, and established starting rules that avoid the problem.
Just as a truth in blogging measure, I am definitely heterosexual, and am indifferent to other people’s sexual orientation. If they are gay or lesbian, so what? I am concerned with what kind of people they are and how I get along with them. I don’t feel threatened by gay men, in fact my wife and I can still get chuckle out of the time a gay waiter tried to hit on me when she and I were out to dinner one evening.
So what do I think God does about homosexuality? Since I don’t have an all-powerful God, He doesn’t have control over a person’s sexuality. He can look at the kind of person they are and go from there. I see complete parallels between homosexual and heterosexual relationships, the only differences being the sexes involved and the potential for children. To condemn homosexual relationships for their sterility is to also condemn sterile heterosexual relationships as well, so the only possible moral stigma unique to homosexuality would be the orientation itself. Evil is condemned, but not until it acts and has consequences. I think the same would be true for homosexuality. Only if it has bad consequences could it be condemned. The criteria should be the same as for any other bad behavior.
But if homosexuality is not sinful per se, must we approve of it? No, a lack of sinfulness does not force approval. It does not mean that it has to be accepted either. It must be tolerated—it is not illegal, nor immoral. Acceptance and approval are personal issues, and, though more serious or deeper seated, can be considered similar in nature to matters of taste. From a personal standpoint we cannot persecute without committing sin ourselves, but we are not required to accept or approve either.
The worst approach is to consider it a sin or a sickness with its implied forceful proscriptions. It is a difference, and one that is not conducive to procreation. I think research should be done as to its origins, and for those who wish to become heterosexual, counseling and help provided, with research on the most effective ways to accomplish it. But I do not consider condemning those who would remain homosexual. It is their life and that may be the best they can do with it.

